KATIE’S RAT POISON

Posted: October 15, 2012 by Admin in Class Matters, Economics, National Party NZ, New Zealand politics, Workers' rights, Youth rights

KATIE’S RAT POISON  click for mp3

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Kate Wilkinson’s got something for teenagers next year

” a starting wage” she calls it , to make more jobs appear

two thousand jobs in just two years, sounds seriously weighty

the thing is but, she’s paying just a shit ten dollars eighty

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Ten dollars eighty – could Katie live on that?

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would any mp like to see that pay rate for their brat?

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If you think we’ll suck this up well you can stick it Kate

‘Cos 10 80’s rat poison

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not an hourly rate

That judge they got from Canada to look at David Bain

to see if he should get a wrong imprisonment claim

That judge’s hourly labour rates four hundred fifty bucks

so don’t tell me I’m silly when I say the system sucks

Ten dollars eighty – could Katie live on that …

If anything I reckon that young workers should get more

They’ve got more youthful energy, their feet don’t get so sore

their backs are not yet buggered and their hearts are not yet broke

to pay them less than us old guys is just a bloody joke

Ten dollars eighty – could Katie live on that…

We got rid of the old youth rates, with Unite union’s lead

another fightback starting now is what we badly need

more money now for our hard work and then, to stop the rot

a new world where rich bastards don’t get to call the shots.

Don Franks 2012

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  1. carl gin says:

    THE YEAR WAS 1981. I STARTED MY FIRST JOB AS A JUNIOR WOOL GRADER AND STOREMAN. MY WAGES STARTED AT A PALTRY $130.00 TO 180.00 BUCKS VARIABLE A WEEK. FRIDAY AFTER WORK WE HAD A 4.30 PM FREE DRINKS SESSION WITH OUR MUCHED LOVED LATE IRISH BOSS (WHISKY & LARGE BOTTLE SPEIGHTS) .
    LIFE ON THAT WAS TOUGH… IE; NIKE RUNNING SHOES @ $230, WEEKLY GASOLINE ALLOWANCE @ $20.00, FOOD @ $20 A WEEK, POLAR FLEECE FAIRYDOWN JACKET @ $240.

    WE HAD TO WORK REASONABLY HARD AND I DID NOT KEEP UP WITH THE JONESES WITH TRENDY CLOTHES,MAG WHEELS,CAR N HOUSE STEREOS, BOOZE ETC LIKE OTHER LOOSERS OF MY AGE DID.
    I FOUND WORK EVERYWHERE WHEN I ASKED WHEN I HAD QUITE TIMES…. TO THIS DAY IM SELF EMPLOYED WITH A VEGE GROWING OPERATION, I RUN A CUSTOM CONCRETE PROJECT BUSINESS AND INDUSTRIAL AIR COMPRESSOR AND GEAR FLEET AND 2 RENTAL SHOPS WITH TENNANTS AMONGST OTHERS.
    I HAVE 98% EQUALTY IN ALL MY PLANT ETC AND HAVE ALL THE WORK I COULD EVER COPE WITH TO A STAGE I CAN PICK MY PAYING CUSTOMERS.
    ALL THIS HAS HAPPENED IN MY 30 ODD YEARS WITH PROPERTY ALSO RECENTLY GAINED THU INHERITANCE.(IM RESPONSIBLE FOR FAMILIES HAND ME DOWNS IE; CASH AND PROPERTIE. I DID NOT SQUAUNDER MY INHERITANCE LIKE TREATING IT LIKE WINNING LOTTO….LIKE OTHER LOOSERS).

    LOW WAGES YOU COMPLAING OF…. WHAT A BUNCH OF WANT IT ALL NOW LOOSERS… GET BACK TO REALITY,STOP HAVING ILLIGITIMATE CHILDREN, STOP BLUDGING OF ME…NO HOPERS!..

    • C.H. says:

      People will be glad to remember your wishes the day an economic turn wipes out your business and you find yourself working for an insufficient wage, or worse, you are forced to claim unemployment benefits. I will gladly pay for the bullet to ensure other hard working people do not have to waste their taxes on selfish, vile sub-humans such as yourself.

      • CARL says:

        HI. WHEN I WAS AT SCHOOL I REFUSED TO DO SPORTS AND WHEN WORKING I SAW PEOPLE WASTE $ ON PARTYS. GURLS, CARS AND OTHER HEDONIST RUBBISH…THEY WERE THE 1′S THAT SAY QUOTE “YOUR WEALTHY”..
        I WENT THE OPPOSITE WAY STARTING OFF ON LOW TO MED WAGES AND PURCHASED LARGE AMOUNTS OF INDUSTRIAL GEAR AND TOOLS (FIRE SALES AND BANKRUPTCY AUCTIONS)..ALL PRECISION GEAR IS PURCHASED BRAND NEW.
        I PLANNED MYSELF TO WEATHER DOWNTURNS (I BEEN THOUGH ALL UNSCATHED IN 80′S AND 90′S B.S) SO TO CORRECT U I DO CHASE AFTER ALL DOLLARS SMALL AND BIG AS LONG AS A PROFIT IS GLEANED.(SMALL DOLLARS ARE ALSO BEAUTIFUL)
        I DON TTHINK THE BENIFIT IS POSSIBLE AS EARNING ARE TOO HIGH….I WILL NOT GO BROKE OR UNDER AS OWNERSHIP IS OVER 100 %.

        I RECENTLY CUT THE POWER AND PHONE AND GAVE AWAY THE TELE ETC AND GONE INDEPENDENT TO SAVE… SO I DON T UNDERSTAND WHY DOLE BLUDGERS HAVE PHONES,.TELES ETC WHEN ON THEIR ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SAID HEAP…. ID RATHER BUY STEEL AND EQUIPMENT ETC..

        SO, WHAT A LOAD OF B.S WHEN PEOPLE SAY THERES NO WORK?.. THEY JUST HAVE TO CUT OUT SPORTS AND SPENDING AND CHASE ALL DOLLARS.

        I WANT ALL THE FILTHY DANGEROUS WORK AS NO IDIOT WILL WANT AS IT AWAYS PAY… JJ

  2. Don Franks says:

    Carl, there is no need to shout and no child is illegitimate.

    You didn’t do too bad with your first wage. My first weekly wage was four pounds four shillings and four pence ha’penny, I remember that because my pipe tobacco cost four and four and a half.

    There is no way Nike runners cost $230 in 1981 unless they were custom made . But well done with the concrete and the vegetables. What do you pay the workers who help you make them?

    • CARL says:

      SORRY MY EYESITE IS POOR DUE TO WELDING AND GRINDING PARTICULATES BEING FIRED INTO EYES SINCE 1980 WHEN FIRST STARTED WELDING. THIS IS WHY I NEED TO RITE IN UPPER CASE… FUNNY ENUFF IS NOW I SPENT 500+ BIG BUCKS ON A NEW MILLER AUTO HELMET WITH 5 X MAGNIFICATION… WHEN YOUNG I COULD NOT AFFORD SAFETY GEAR AND HAD TO SPEND ON TOOLS N GEAR ONLY.

      YES IN 1981 /4 I DID SPEND THAT ON RUNNING A PAIR OF NIKES… IT WAS WHAT THE PRICE WAS AS I RECALL ALMOST STRUGGLING TO PAY FOR IT.

      IN 89 I PAID SCHOOL KIDS 15 TO 16 BUCKS AN HR FOR AFTER SCHOOL HARVEST WORK…THEY SAVED AND ALL NOW HAVE OWN BUSSINESS FROM MOBILE COFFEE SALE RUNS, TO TRANSPORTATION AND PAINT SHOP OPERATIONS. THE CURRENT WAGES IS ONLY 600 VARIEING TO 700 / 900 A WEEK BUT ALL MY CONK AND STEEL CONTRACT I DO BY MYSELF WITH JUNIOR WORKER AS HIRED FULL TIME STAFF DESTROYS GOOD GEAR.

      SO FROM MY OBSERVATIONS BASED ON PEOPLE SAYING THERES NO WORK OR ITS LO PAY…. SCROO THEM, THERE IS SO MUCH WORK I HAVE TO CHOOSE WHAT I LIKE AS A CHALLENGE (ON CONK JOBS I CHOOSE TECHNICALLY CHALLENGING PROJECTS) THE REASON WHY IM CHOSEN IS WE OVERENGINEER THE JOB 4 X OVER THE N.Z STANDARD AND CUSTOMER ARE GLAD TO PAY…AND I CHARGE 2/3RD OF MARKET RATE SO CALL CONTRACTORS.

  3. Don Franks says:

    We’ll just have to agree to disagree about some stuff Carl.
    I realize that under capitalism there are periods when some goods and services currently in demand can command decent prices and high wages.
    There are also a great many essential social tasks that return starvation wages. Cleaning and care of aged people are classic examples. Society demands that such work be done regularly and be done well, but it invariably gets insultingly rotten pay.
    In a capitalist society work is rewarded by the yardstick of what is profitable, human need and safe work practices come a very distant second, if at all.

    • CARL says:

      DON. AS A TAXPAYER I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH DIVERTING MY TAX DOLLAR TO HELP THE HANDICAPPED, THE AGED, THE MENTALLY IMPAIRED, THE MILITARY, POLICE BUT NOT THE ABLE BODY THAT LEACHES OF THE TAXPAYER… IN SAYING THAT FAMILIES SHOULD LOOK AFTER THEIR OWN AND IF THEIR OWN GOES OFF TRACK… THEIR FAMILY PAYS.
      JJ

  4. Admin says:

    The idea that “their family pays” is a bit shortsighted though, Carl. If their family doesn’t pay and the kids end up neglected and growing into adults who are not productive members of society, maybe end up as criminals and in jail, that’s far, far more costly for you as a taxpayer than having some of your tax go into programmes that give those kids a chance.

    Would you rather a little bit of your tax today go into programmes that can at least try to ensure those kids end up productiove members of society or would you rather just leave them so that tomorrow *a lot* of your tax dollars go into the costs of prisons. It costs as much to keep one person in jail for one year as it does to pay someone the DPB for about 7 or 8 years.

    Also, if those children get some financial help and end up being productive members of society, you’ll get your money back. Their tax would pay for your pension!

    You’ve worked hard and become comfortable. Nobody’s begrudging you what you’ve got, so why get so upset about the idea that people should be paid the same money for doing the same work regardless of age?

    Phil

    • CARL says:

      HI PHIL.
      WE / I & FREINDS INCLUDING EVERY1 IN THE GREATER COMMUNITY THAT I KNOW OF PERSONALLY HAVE WORKED HARD I COULD REMEMBER THAT WE HAD NO HEAT, STRUGGLED TO LEAVE ELECTRIC BURNING DEVICES ON FOR WHAT WE ACCEPT AS THE NORM NOW, THE ABILITY TO AFFORD TO BUY ANYTHING BEYOND THE BASIC NECCESITIES OF FOOD….ALL THESE ARE STILL A PROBLEM TO THIS DATE.

      THE PROBLEM IS IT TAKES GENERATIONS TO GAIN ANY HINT OF WEATH AND LIFE IS A STRUGGLE, THATS WHY I DO AWAY WITH SPORTS, TELEVISION,POWER,SOME FOODS, FANCY CLOTHING, ENTERTAINMENT ETC…. ALL MONEY IS SPENT ON BUSSINESS PLANT, PROPERTY ETC.
      SOME PEOPLE WONDER WHY I VE NOT MARRIED?… I STATE THATS ONLY FOR THE WEALTHY, & WOMEN ESPECIALLY N.Z WOMEN ARE OUT THERE TO MOP YOUR CASH UP RENDERING 1 TO A LIFE OF MISSERY ON THE FRINGES OF SOCIETY..(I VE SEEN IT ALL).

      SO, WHAT IM SAYING IS OUR FORBEARS AND MY GENERATION STRUGGLE WITH LIFE LONG AUSTERITY…. AND IN THE LAST 25 YEARS TO PRESENT DAY THE BLOODY IMMIGRANTS FROM THIRD WORLD NATIONS AND LOCAL INDIGIONOUS CITIZENS BREED,BLUDGE AND DEMAND ALL CONSUMER GOODS AND LUXURIES AND TAX MONEY WITHOUT THE STRUGGLE. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HARD GRAFT?.

      WE / I HAD TO CLIMB THE LADDER GAINING EXPERIENCE WHICH ENCOMPASSES EARNING LOW INCOME FOR AT LEST 5 YEARS…. WE OR MATES WOULD NEVER PAY MEGA BUCKS UNLESS SOME1 COULD COME WITH EXPERIENCE.

      SO THE REALITY IS START FROM THE BOTTOM AND ALSO NO 1 GENERATION WHOM HAS NOTHING COULD HAVE EVERYTHING…. IT TAKES DECADES AND GENERATIONS. AND ALSO THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A CLASS SYSTEM, RICH AND POOR.

      NOW I GOTTR GO BACK TO WORK.. JJ

  5. Don Franks says:

    THE PROBLEM IS IT TAKES GENERATIONS TO GAIN ANY HINT OF WEATH AND LIFE IS A STRUGGLE, THATS WHY I DO AWAY WITH SPORTS, TELEVISION,POWER,SOME FOODS, FANCY CLOTHING, ENTERTAINMENT

    Mate, for some it takes no generations, the fruit of others labour is passed to them on a plate at birth.

    Why should we pick up Harry and Will’s bar tab so they can keep pissing it up against the wall?

    That’s why we need a workers revolution, so the useful people on this earth may achieve a social system where we all enjoy some fun in our short lives.

    Me, I could no problem do without TV, some foods, fancy clothing and most of what is offered in the name of entertainment.
    Not electric power though.
    Or sport.
    If I can’t jog four times a week and race twice a year I really don’t want to be on this ball of dust.

  6. Admin says:

    Carl, I can see that you are frustrated with the way things are. But you’ve got the targets wrong, mate. It’s easy to lash out at “NZ women” and “immigrants”, but it’s not them who control wealth, investment and exploitation etc etc in New Zealand.

    They are actually integral to the creation of wealth in this country. For instance, the population of New Zealand would be stagnant, even declining some years, if it weren’t for immigrants. Moreover, many immigrants who come here have already been educated somewhere else – so that’s a substantial cost that is not paid from the NZ economy. They go to work, often in jobs that NZ citizens won’t do or where there’s a shortage of labour. They create wealth in the form of goods and services and some of that wealth is paid in tax which will help pay for your pension when you retire and already helps subsidise health care for you. Attacking immigrants is attacking the hand that helps you in terms of the provision of services, pension in the future etc.

    Here’s something else immigrants do. I use public transport a lot. If all the immigrants disappeared there would be a lot less buses, a lot less jobs for bus drivers, a lot less regular buses and ticket prices would be higher. Every time I ride a bus, which is several times a day, I’m thankful that there are immigrants whose fares help keep bus prices down and help keep the buses regular enough to be viable for me to use.

    You say you haven’t married and I assume that you don’t have children either. Well, just as you complain about “NZ Women” and “immigrants”, some people – not us on this blog, but plenty of other people – would complain that you are not doing your bit by reproducing the next generation of workers!

    Scapegoating other people for what is a problem of the system – capitalism! – is always a risky game to play. Because just as you scapegoat others, so someone else will identify you as the problem and scapegoat you.

    A better idea is for people to get together and talk and work towards creating a different social and economic system. No good ever comes from dividing up into embittered little groups each sulking in its own corner and blaming each other for everything that’s wrong in society.

    Phil